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Post by Mother Isis on Jul 6, 2016 1:21:37 GMT
Mother Isis would enter the room it was darker then normal seeing as she wished to not touch or tend to the fireplace. Taking a seat away from the fireplace, the furthest point in the room she would await the people she needed to talk to.
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Post by Jaak Alemayehu, Shango Kholo on Jul 6, 2016 1:31:28 GMT
*drops Obfuscate*
Jaak moves to stand in a corner, overlooking the room away from the seats.
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Post by Morrigan on Jul 7, 2016 3:49:14 GMT
Morrigan walks in on the arm of Sokrates, Raetus not far behind. She balks a little on seeing Isis is not alone. She then curtsies a little and goes to take a seat.
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Post by Jaak Alemayehu, Shango Kholo on Jul 7, 2016 4:01:41 GMT
*nods respectfully as the dignitaries enter*
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Post by Sokrates Salonikas on Jul 7, 2016 4:02:44 GMT
Ah, good Doge. I believe everyone is here as you requested. As you requested this meeting, would you care to tell us why we are all here, unless anyone has any objections?
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Post by Sokrates Salonikas on Jul 7, 2016 5:44:38 GMT
(ooc: um, ok, evidently Raetus did not in fact follow us. Paradox! Is he here or in the Solar? My mind is melting.)
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Post by Mother Isis on Jul 7, 2016 6:06:22 GMT
( waiting on all to post an entrance so i know they are here i need you all)
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Post by Raetus on Jul 9, 2016 2:16:42 GMT
Raetus enters the room hurriedly looking somewhat harried as he rechecks the door.
`My apologies I appeared to have gotten turned around and then waylaid by other; is this seat taken.` |
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Post by Sokrates Salonikas on Jul 9, 2016 3:24:43 GMT
Ah, well then good Doge I believe this is everyone you asked for, now we can begin unless anyone has any objections.
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Post by Mother Isis on Jul 9, 2016 3:42:08 GMT
Isis would silently watch all the other she summoned enter the room. Looking at them past her black scarf wrapped around her head a small smile would cross her face, an eerie presance would soon be known once all entered the room. "Greetings and thank you all for coming....I wanted to speak to you all concerning the Reeve and would like your input on how he has been behaving and not properly in my eyes as a reeve should" looking to the Herald she would nod and smile "if I might offer you a minor boon good Herald for coming to this meeting " she would pause and wait for responses.
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Post by Sokrates Salonikas on Jul 9, 2016 4:22:03 GMT
Ah, good Doge, while I understand your frustrations and can see the underlying issues that might contribute to them, I would urge you to carefully consider anything you might wish to say. Regardless of our thoughts on the matter, his office, much like mine, has very vast and wide-ranging powers over many areas. In fact, he enjoys certain advantages in some areas that I do not, just as I enjoy different advantages vice versa. Additionally, he is also immune to some of my censure, though not all. Quite simply put, with all due respect to your station, you do not have any status in your own right to openly question him without repercussion.
If you have a specific grievance with a particular action, you can address this in a couple of useful ways with the status you do have, and if any of your Pledged citizens wish to expend Pledged and declare you Gallant, that would be even more helpful as you could essentially use your status at least twice, depending on how many of them expend on your behalf. The problem lies in that they would no longer enjoy the passive benefits of Pledged themselves, leaving a vulnerability on their person. At any rate, I can suggest the following, short of petitioning the Ard Rhi himself. Unfortunately, that is the nature of these offices. Should we install a tyrant, it is rather difficult (though not impossible) to unseat them. Should they be wise and benevolent, they become that much more insulated against the slings and arrows of petty rivals. But I digress.
You can expend your own Pledged (or Gallant) to call ANYONE a liar, but only for a single scene. You can only contradict them on one topic or statement, but you can do so indefinitely without penalty.
You can also expend your Empowered to declare something as truth. Until properly challenged by the appropriate combination of status, it BECOMES truth and cannot be disputed. One Regal, which he has, is sufficient to stand as challenge, but sometimes it might be worth it to force that expenditure in order to remove the passive benefits as well. It is Regal and Judicial that will pose the greatest obstacles to any opposition to him, so losing one of those for comparatively little (to counter your one statement) would be quite the blow.
While I do not believe you have overstepped in this instance, if we were to interpret this situation as a public situation due to the number of people in this room all from different areas, what you just said questioning his conduct and authority in his office is skirting the border of a public insult, and you could be automatically Warned. I have done this for others before, and I offer it to you now: all higher office and domain holders get a gentle nudge if I see their behaviour approaching offense, and you will not in fact be Warned at this time. According to our laws, I would be perfectly within my rights to do so, but I temper justice with mercy where appropriate. As the Doge, this is appropriate. But please consider what I have said.
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Post by Mother Isis on Jul 9, 2016 5:54:41 GMT
The reason why I bring it up is the fact he openly backs Libach even though he is suppose to be neutral. I believe he is still sides with them even though he takes his places as reeve. I want to know what it will take to replace him with one that will treat us all with a neutral status other then picking favorites. As shown before he tried to demand boons and I assume will try again with his said status for no other reason then to be a bully amongst us all. Is there anyway to even tell the Ard rhi about this he to should hopefully understand the unfairness of the situation. Gunner is faithful to Libach still even though he is suppose to be neutral. He should not be taking of offence over another domain he is not apart of...it would be the Duke if any that should if anything and he as the neutral party. But as seen at the stables he openly showed favor to Libach.
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Post by Mother Isis on Jul 9, 2016 5:56:34 GMT
(Making sure you seen the minor boon offered as well)
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Post by Raetus on Jul 9, 2016 6:27:50 GMT
Ì believe that the Doge is at heart correct in that Gunnar clearly does show favoritism towards Liabach. This in itself would not be a concern as his personal opinions should be his alone. However in excising his duties he seems less than level headed. There is I believe reasonable grounds to suspect that the incident at the barn had nothing to do with infernalism. Yet Gunnar refuses to consider this and allows this ruse to be used by his former compatriot to cover up the truth. This concerns me as his loyalties appear to sway the pursuit of his duties which should be foremost in his mind. If the Reeve plans to function well in his role he must be seen to be interested primarily in his role regardless of his personal preferences. Without this confidence from the region it is unlikely he will receive support from the other regions. I believe Gunnar is at heart a linear thinker and will make an excellent Reeve however until he begins to think on a broader theatre he will be hamstringed. `To this effect I would suggest Herald that the Ard Rhi not allow the Reeve to play a role in the decision of who the next Prince is. This will allow him to stop playing diplomat and get on with the business of rooting out the true infernalists.`
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Post by Morrigan on Jul 9, 2016 6:58:38 GMT
I cannot personally say one way or the other, as I was not witness to any of these events. In fact, I am failing to see why I have been included in this conversation in the first place.
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