Post by Rule Hound on Nov 21, 2016 18:46:42 GMT
Akiko
Journal
There seems to be forces of primal power that the demon encourages and works with. Some of his followers embody dedication, dignity and enhance the Ego in ones accomplishment. Allowing them to bestow this on others.
Some allow for a beserker rage to arise, reaking vengance in the demons name
others cause chaos, drawing others to accomplish tasks and serve by their meer presence
Some enhance the primal urges.
The writer talks of how small creatures little grey ugly babylike things with bat wings were used to flit around and served some of the masters. They are usually invisible but a few Cainites are able to spot them if they look hard enough through the astral plain. He tells how under interrogation one Cainite tells him how they can be summoned and that these are but the smallest and easiest.
There are fiendish creatures that go out in packs and drag sacrifices back to their masters.
How the Infernals at first raided locally then turned their eyes towards legendary items. How they seem to be able to literally cease to exist in on place and then appear in another many leagues distant.
The discovery that when they disappear they seem to always do so within certain areas of the city and if they appear they appear in similar areas.
They discovered a great pit. A Cainite can sacrifice themselves to a greater demon becoming their slave and gaining poewr by doing so.
In the end they destroyed all the Demons primary servants, all except the Setite Sorcerer. Him they could not destroy as he kept re-incarnating. With the aid of the most powerful blood sorcerer they could find they chained him in an enchanted sarcophogus for eternity. Built a secret place for it,and bound a society of humans to guard it and for all subsequent generations to guard it for all eternity.
When sealing the pit we were forced to confront our greatest fears. Bound by blood and brotherhood as we were the only way was through sacrifice. I was not up to the challenge, but my brother being stalwart and dedicated said he could. I can only presume he followed through and sacrificed his greatest love to the beast and the pit, for in the end it was sealed and the rift kept small enough that the beast never fully came through. My brother said it was destroyed and its remains sealed away when the sacrifice was mad to seal the rift and destroy the pit.
From Salubri
The Salubri goes into great length about how though the Baali are a clan originally distinct from most others. But how if someone is to offer their soul up to a greater demon he can somehow twist and corrupt their very essence changing their blood and turn them into a Baali.
The Baali are their own clan and a amalgamation of other clans that have been twisted. when a converted Baali embraces they always pass on their new heritage. After seeing the scum Tremere make themselves a clan I suspect that something similar was done with the Baali. That the blood of ancients and some ritual combined with Beziekiel's influence or possibly even more than one greater demons influence in the ritual created them.
There are several levels of minor demons and fiends. You can garner power from any of them but the greatest power comes from offering oneself up to a greater demon. The lesser fiends and demons from various levels of hell can be summoned and controlled. But dealing with such things will corrupt.
You get a number of demon and fiend names of varying power. For most of the week he talks of exploits of how he searches out small cults that are just beginning to dabble in summoning lesser creatures and stamp them out. How he has found several cabals of Tremere dealing with the infernal in order to enhance their own power but that he always has to try to keep hidden and get others to notice this. The meer thought of his presence will bring any Tremere, infernal or not running. To silence him on their infernal and diablerist ways.
From Malkavian Occult Mystic (This takes place over the course of a week and is much more long winded then the summarized version here. Remember he is a Malkavian)
Numina is something only usable by mortals. Vampires are unable to tap into and directly shape this worldly force. It seems the power within a Vampires blood makes them unable to manipulate this other force. Numina in of itself is far more powerful than any blood magic a Vampire can call upon. Or at least more powerful than all but an Antediluvian, and even then it is questionable. Mortals have varying capacities to tap into this from the wise woman to the mage. But they still must learn how to tap and shape it. A mortals ability to shape Numina depends on their learning, their potential, raw skill and ability and much more. A mortal can reshape reality with this.
The Tremere were once of the order of Hermes. Mortal mages, their best more powerful than you can imagine. BUT, they were just that, MORTAL. Where we can be put near to death, drink a little blood, sleep a little and return as good as we were before, a Mortal mage is still limited my the world. They can heal some but not to the degree we can. They can tear down a castle over our heads and we just dig our way out latter. If we loose a arm we usually grow it back. If they are buried they will almost always die or suffocate. If they loose a arm they may have time to seal the wound before they bleed out but their arm is gone forever.
The power of Numina is much easier focused and stored into items of power. Storing specific effects or as talismans to enhance and focus what a Mage does. But this is very different from other forms power. When imbuing a item with power it never exceeds what the Mage could wield. It does not become enhanced, concentrated. Another great ability with Numina is the ability for multiple wielders to combine their efforts, enhancing what the end effect can do. In cases where this is done to create items or focuses of power then these items can on occasion reach concentrations that approach that of artifacts, becoming one themselves. But rarely do enough Numina wielders work together to accomplish this. One case I suppose would be the Chalice that was used as a focus for Tzmitze Blood, when combining it with Numina through a great ritual to give themselves mortality. See, the Tremere thought they could steal immortality from us and filter out any bad stuff. But what they got was simply an indirect embrace. They were originally little more than a bloodline of yours. But through diablerie have evolved into much more than that. with ritualistc magic, diablery and such they have found a way to ensure their blood propagates true bestowing a gift for working blood into magic in their childer, greater than what us others are capable.
Their blood Magic, isn't anything special, we have been using it for Millennia. But yours is tied to the earth, Assamites to their codes, us Malkavians to insight. The Tremere were used to manipulating reality so they are not limited like us. to them anything was possible. They may have lost the ability to shape Numina but the power in our blood. Well, they quickly learned how to turn that into a shapeable force. And they are not hindered by the constraints or stagnancy that our forefathers and us have. They are writing a new book with knowledge of shaping other power and reality that we do not have.
I see I am confusing you. Let me clear up what you really want to know.
Yes, any form of power can be stored. In items, objects or laid out in a way like that bracelet you have on. To focus what we can already do and make it easier in the future. To concentrate that power can not easily be done.
Artifacts are another matter. They are almost impossible to purposely create, at least until the Christians came along, but I think that is more luck in how they do things and their litanies than by design.
Artifacts are created either through great and repeated faith. A family touching a idol of their god year after year, preying and using a object as a focus for those prayers, simple belief in something. Others are created more by chance, some event that is a stop gap in the currents of time in the flows of the five elements coming together and taking note of some special event or great deed. The elements somehow imbue the intent of the individual into what ever it is they are holding, using, wielding. These primal powers concentrate creating a artifact.
The power in artifacts always has a specific purpose or reason. Usable only for that under normal circumstances. BUT, with the right knowledge anything can be corrupted, perverted into another use. The creek that fills the farmers pond can be blocked and diverted by a beaver damm and the water led on a new course. It is finding a way to divert this force to a purpose that suits. These infernals through their masters have learned how to do this. Stepping into time itself. Walking reliably through one of the hells takes great power. Few can learn to do this. The Capodocians, The Lasambra.... but a few. So where to get a reliable source of such concentrated power? Rip a hole into a hell, one that isn't simply bordering our physical plane? Then how to anchor the hole...
Oh, I see our time is up. Tah, tah...
Jacob
You feel very possessive of this book. Others are not honorable enough to be trusted with this information, they would almost certainly use it for personal gain instead of to fight the evil it represents. Only under the guidance and control of someone from a Bloodline that has fought such foul forces for Millennia can it be determined what is safe and what is not. Someone with skills and who can knowledgeably weigh the risks can control dangerous outcomes. Best just disseminate the information when and where you see fit.
Actual full rituals on how to draw forth power from some of the levels of hell. How to use it to enhance yourself, gain powers. Full rituals and components required. The names of several minor demons and rituals of how to open a breach for Beziekiel to come through. (Which requires very concentrated forms of power and the life energy of many)
There are rituals for summoning different types of imps and creatures. with descriptions and names. What they can do. Some can spy, others can find things, gather information. Others can collect souls.
There are rituals on how to enhance blood magic rituals, wards, items of power (wands that call fire, items of protection...).
Descriptions of how to harness the power from artifacts and souls.
It talks about the possibility of instantaneous travel, and the nature of a Baali pit but references that the knowledge will be passed on through minions only to those who can control them, thus have the power, skill and ability to complete the needed rituals.
The Demon Beziekiel is a Greater Pit Lord. You suspect by the writings that somehow his tie to the mortal world was never fully severed or cut off when he was banished. Though their avatars can be killed you can never truly kill or destroy a Fiend such as he. Because he has had this tie to the world feeding him for so many millennia a sacrifice of massive proportions would be required to banish him again. But even then who knows how long. 10 years, 100? 1000? who can say, as long as his name is known and he has a tie to the world he will eventually find a way back.
Journal
There seems to be forces of primal power that the demon encourages and works with. Some of his followers embody dedication, dignity and enhance the Ego in ones accomplishment. Allowing them to bestow this on others.
Some allow for a beserker rage to arise, reaking vengance in the demons name
others cause chaos, drawing others to accomplish tasks and serve by their meer presence
Some enhance the primal urges.
The writer talks of how small creatures little grey ugly babylike things with bat wings were used to flit around and served some of the masters. They are usually invisible but a few Cainites are able to spot them if they look hard enough through the astral plain. He tells how under interrogation one Cainite tells him how they can be summoned and that these are but the smallest and easiest.
There are fiendish creatures that go out in packs and drag sacrifices back to their masters.
How the Infernals at first raided locally then turned their eyes towards legendary items. How they seem to be able to literally cease to exist in on place and then appear in another many leagues distant.
The discovery that when they disappear they seem to always do so within certain areas of the city and if they appear they appear in similar areas.
They discovered a great pit. A Cainite can sacrifice themselves to a greater demon becoming their slave and gaining poewr by doing so.
In the end they destroyed all the Demons primary servants, all except the Setite Sorcerer. Him they could not destroy as he kept re-incarnating. With the aid of the most powerful blood sorcerer they could find they chained him in an enchanted sarcophogus for eternity. Built a secret place for it,and bound a society of humans to guard it and for all subsequent generations to guard it for all eternity.
When sealing the pit we were forced to confront our greatest fears. Bound by blood and brotherhood as we were the only way was through sacrifice. I was not up to the challenge, but my brother being stalwart and dedicated said he could. I can only presume he followed through and sacrificed his greatest love to the beast and the pit, for in the end it was sealed and the rift kept small enough that the beast never fully came through. My brother said it was destroyed and its remains sealed away when the sacrifice was mad to seal the rift and destroy the pit.
From Salubri
The Salubri goes into great length about how though the Baali are a clan originally distinct from most others. But how if someone is to offer their soul up to a greater demon he can somehow twist and corrupt their very essence changing their blood and turn them into a Baali.
The Baali are their own clan and a amalgamation of other clans that have been twisted. when a converted Baali embraces they always pass on their new heritage. After seeing the scum Tremere make themselves a clan I suspect that something similar was done with the Baali. That the blood of ancients and some ritual combined with Beziekiel's influence or possibly even more than one greater demons influence in the ritual created them.
There are several levels of minor demons and fiends. You can garner power from any of them but the greatest power comes from offering oneself up to a greater demon. The lesser fiends and demons from various levels of hell can be summoned and controlled. But dealing with such things will corrupt.
You get a number of demon and fiend names of varying power. For most of the week he talks of exploits of how he searches out small cults that are just beginning to dabble in summoning lesser creatures and stamp them out. How he has found several cabals of Tremere dealing with the infernal in order to enhance their own power but that he always has to try to keep hidden and get others to notice this. The meer thought of his presence will bring any Tremere, infernal or not running. To silence him on their infernal and diablerist ways.
From Malkavian Occult Mystic (This takes place over the course of a week and is much more long winded then the summarized version here. Remember he is a Malkavian)
Numina is something only usable by mortals. Vampires are unable to tap into and directly shape this worldly force. It seems the power within a Vampires blood makes them unable to manipulate this other force. Numina in of itself is far more powerful than any blood magic a Vampire can call upon. Or at least more powerful than all but an Antediluvian, and even then it is questionable. Mortals have varying capacities to tap into this from the wise woman to the mage. But they still must learn how to tap and shape it. A mortals ability to shape Numina depends on their learning, their potential, raw skill and ability and much more. A mortal can reshape reality with this.
The Tremere were once of the order of Hermes. Mortal mages, their best more powerful than you can imagine. BUT, they were just that, MORTAL. Where we can be put near to death, drink a little blood, sleep a little and return as good as we were before, a Mortal mage is still limited my the world. They can heal some but not to the degree we can. They can tear down a castle over our heads and we just dig our way out latter. If we loose a arm we usually grow it back. If they are buried they will almost always die or suffocate. If they loose a arm they may have time to seal the wound before they bleed out but their arm is gone forever.
The power of Numina is much easier focused and stored into items of power. Storing specific effects or as talismans to enhance and focus what a Mage does. But this is very different from other forms power. When imbuing a item with power it never exceeds what the Mage could wield. It does not become enhanced, concentrated. Another great ability with Numina is the ability for multiple wielders to combine their efforts, enhancing what the end effect can do. In cases where this is done to create items or focuses of power then these items can on occasion reach concentrations that approach that of artifacts, becoming one themselves. But rarely do enough Numina wielders work together to accomplish this. One case I suppose would be the Chalice that was used as a focus for Tzmitze Blood, when combining it with Numina through a great ritual to give themselves mortality. See, the Tremere thought they could steal immortality from us and filter out any bad stuff. But what they got was simply an indirect embrace. They were originally little more than a bloodline of yours. But through diablerie have evolved into much more than that. with ritualistc magic, diablery and such they have found a way to ensure their blood propagates true bestowing a gift for working blood into magic in their childer, greater than what us others are capable.
Their blood Magic, isn't anything special, we have been using it for Millennia. But yours is tied to the earth, Assamites to their codes, us Malkavians to insight. The Tremere were used to manipulating reality so they are not limited like us. to them anything was possible. They may have lost the ability to shape Numina but the power in our blood. Well, they quickly learned how to turn that into a shapeable force. And they are not hindered by the constraints or stagnancy that our forefathers and us have. They are writing a new book with knowledge of shaping other power and reality that we do not have.
I see I am confusing you. Let me clear up what you really want to know.
Yes, any form of power can be stored. In items, objects or laid out in a way like that bracelet you have on. To focus what we can already do and make it easier in the future. To concentrate that power can not easily be done.
Artifacts are another matter. They are almost impossible to purposely create, at least until the Christians came along, but I think that is more luck in how they do things and their litanies than by design.
Artifacts are created either through great and repeated faith. A family touching a idol of their god year after year, preying and using a object as a focus for those prayers, simple belief in something. Others are created more by chance, some event that is a stop gap in the currents of time in the flows of the five elements coming together and taking note of some special event or great deed. The elements somehow imbue the intent of the individual into what ever it is they are holding, using, wielding. These primal powers concentrate creating a artifact.
The power in artifacts always has a specific purpose or reason. Usable only for that under normal circumstances. BUT, with the right knowledge anything can be corrupted, perverted into another use. The creek that fills the farmers pond can be blocked and diverted by a beaver damm and the water led on a new course. It is finding a way to divert this force to a purpose that suits. These infernals through their masters have learned how to do this. Stepping into time itself. Walking reliably through one of the hells takes great power. Few can learn to do this. The Capodocians, The Lasambra.... but a few. So where to get a reliable source of such concentrated power? Rip a hole into a hell, one that isn't simply bordering our physical plane? Then how to anchor the hole...
Oh, I see our time is up. Tah, tah...
Jacob
You feel very possessive of this book. Others are not honorable enough to be trusted with this information, they would almost certainly use it for personal gain instead of to fight the evil it represents. Only under the guidance and control of someone from a Bloodline that has fought such foul forces for Millennia can it be determined what is safe and what is not. Someone with skills and who can knowledgeably weigh the risks can control dangerous outcomes. Best just disseminate the information when and where you see fit.
Actual full rituals on how to draw forth power from some of the levels of hell. How to use it to enhance yourself, gain powers. Full rituals and components required. The names of several minor demons and rituals of how to open a breach for Beziekiel to come through. (Which requires very concentrated forms of power and the life energy of many)
There are rituals for summoning different types of imps and creatures. with descriptions and names. What they can do. Some can spy, others can find things, gather information. Others can collect souls.
There are rituals on how to enhance blood magic rituals, wards, items of power (wands that call fire, items of protection...).
Descriptions of how to harness the power from artifacts and souls.
It talks about the possibility of instantaneous travel, and the nature of a Baali pit but references that the knowledge will be passed on through minions only to those who can control them, thus have the power, skill and ability to complete the needed rituals.
The Demon Beziekiel is a Greater Pit Lord. You suspect by the writings that somehow his tie to the mortal world was never fully severed or cut off when he was banished. Though their avatars can be killed you can never truly kill or destroy a Fiend such as he. Because he has had this tie to the world feeding him for so many millennia a sacrifice of massive proportions would be required to banish him again. But even then who knows how long. 10 years, 100? 1000? who can say, as long as his name is known and he has a tie to the world he will eventually find a way back.
